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Please, please, all of you pipe down. It seems both authors are whiny and pretentious in their own way. I am a republican, but one smart enough to see that Bush is completely messing everything up. The nation freaked out when Bill Clinton lied to the public about having an affair, but when Bush decides to invade a country and kill thousands and endanger our own soldiers for oil under the guise of defense-- people are supportive. That is what is messed up. Again, I am a republican but I see that there is seriously something wrong with the way things are happening. Wal*Mart, in my opinion, has succumbed to the pit of "let's not offend anyone by refusing to sell anything!" I went to a Wal*Mart the other day, much by accident I assure you, and that place made me suicidal. I truly believe it is a soul sucking place and had I stayed there longer I would have looked much like the other shoppers-- without life or love of life. And the pencils were locked behind glass!! Does that institute good morals, to just assume everyone is a theif?! Basically, both Joel and Mark need to step back and realize that exaggeration of the point will not convince people, just confuse the truth and obscure motives. Wal*Mart should not have to be responsible for a parent's inability to raise their children in this world. If a child can read "orgasm" then they are probably old enough to have heard others things from other children. Innocence does not last long in this society, but that doesn't mean one should overreact.

Wal-Mart's crimes go well beyond a little censoring. They provide jobs, at what cost? It is a fact that the average wages drop in every town where they build a super wal-mart. Smaller, higher-paying stores can not compete, go out of business and those jobs shift to lower-paying jobs at wal-mart. How about if you want to be a merchandise provider for Wal-mart? It is not directly stated, but known that you are highly encouraged to higher children in China to produce that product, so Wal-Mart can maintain those great low prices. Wal-Mart is presently facing thousands of lawsuits across the country. But, they have strong political power. I could go further, but that's enough to get you thinking.
As for Celeste, the problem with Bill Clinton had nothing to do with lying to the public, that is okay, all politicians do it. The problem lies with the fact that he went under oath in front of a federal court and committed perjury. The problem lies with NAFTA, and the jobs he has shifted out of our country. Of, course, you'll blame it on Bush since the effects are just becoming obvious. The problem lies with the rape charges, several of them, that seemed to just disappear and never received media attention. The problem lies with his attack on the boy scouts. The problem lies with embezzlements, kickbacks, cooked accounting ledgers. Don't forget, Bill Clinton also bombed Iraq, the Serbs, and his only successful military venture was in Waco, Texas.
Oh, and here is a short, incomplete list of people who were a liability to Bill. They are all dead(murders and suicides): Mary Mahoney, James McDougal, Vince Foster, Ron Brown, C. Victor Raiser II, Montgomery Raiser, Paul Tulley, Ed Willey, Jerry Parks, James Bunch, James Wilson, Kathy Ferguson, Bill Shelton, Gandy Baugh, Florence Martin, Danny Casolaro, Paul Wilcher, Barry Seal, Suzanne Coleman, Joe Walker, Barbara Wise, Charles Meissner, Johnny Lawhorn Jr., Stanley Huggins, and let's not forget Clinton's former security team: Major William Barkley Jr., Capt. Scott Reynolds, Sgt. Brian Hanley, Sgt. Tim Sabel, Major Gen. William Robinson, Col. William Densberger, Col. Robert Kelley, Spec. Gary Rhodes, Steve Willis, Robert Williams, Conway LeBleu, and Todd McKeehan.
Names compliment of www.federalist.com.
I could write a book on problems with Bill Clinton, all serious charges, not lying. I tell you what, you go work for him or his wife, who is notorious for treating her underlings like the dirt they are. And, if anything, Hillary's lying far surpasses her husbands, I consider her to be many times more dangerous than Bill. However, that is another story.
This is not a defense of Bush; he is a dangerous man, also. He has expanded the power of the gov. more than any President in history. I am anti-democrat and anti-republican, I am a Libertarian. Don't confuse that with liberals, who are democrats. Anyways, have a nice day!

when did we forget about taking care of one another and caring about society has a whole. everyone is talking about how patriot they are, but are they really. do they honestly care about the united states of america. oh, its fine to sport a bumper sticker with the american flag but what have you really done for your country and society. do you volunteer your time to your communtity. have you gone out and picked up trash along the roads of your city. have you chose not to to shop and give your money to an establishment that takes advantage of its employees. I am tired of listening to people talk about how much they love this country and wave the american flag with the slight idea of what it means to really care about where you live and give back and support the people that make this country a great place to live. SO EITHER PUT UP OR SHUTUP!!!!!

All people are biased, it is human nature. The problem is not bias, but a lack of education. Most people's opinions are formed without any substantial logical basis in fact. From what I've seen in economics classes, few people understand how our economy works. At college level in this country, most people can not write one legible sentence without several grammatical errors. A high-school diploma in America is worthless, it does not mean you have a 12th grade education. I am 33 and a junior in college studying computer sciences, and, as sad as it is, my 12 year old son writes better than most people in my class. It scares the shit out of me that these are the people who vote, the people who lead this country. In the 19th century, you had to pass a test that showed you had a basic understanding of what the hell was going on before you were allowed to vote. I believe we should return to a similar test. I mean, if you don't have a lick of understanding about world events, you should not be allowed to vote and influence said events. As long as people continue to turn their children over to the government to be educated, this problem will only get worse. The government does nothing well, why would education be any different.

DIRTYHERN. Have you ever heard of the fallacies of logic? You have just performed a fine demonstration of argumentum ad hominem. Basically, attacking the person instead of the argument. Usually demonstrated when the person has no logic to back their side. Also, always shows the individuals lack of intelligence.
DIRTYHERN, Sam is making billions off of your work, what are you getting from Sam? Unless you are running a store, I'm sure it's not even a livable wage. Don't get me wrong, DIRTYHERN, I don't blame Sam for this. People are mistreated by Sam because they agree to it. I would never let Sam do me that way, I like myself too much.
I do blame Sam for the mistreatment of the children who work to produce the products that he stocks in his stores. It is well known that many of those products are produced by child labor in China and elsewhere. Though, Sam feels he has a clean conscience because he doesn't personally employ them, he just sells the products that they produce. How do you think good ol Sam keeps those prices so low? It's not by paying good wages to employees, I promise you that. And, maybe what Sam is doing is not legally wrong, but I will never support it. I have had over a hundred employees in the past three years and I do make money off of them, well, some of them. Some of them I lose money on. But, I do not try to become a billionaire off of the sweat of their brow. I do my best to give them a fair share of the profit they work to produce. Of course, I am a rare breed. Most employers are not much better than Sam. I do not believe in legislation to solve this problem, I am 100% capitalist. I believe that if people work for less than they deserve, they get what they deserve. The employees of Wal-Mart need to demand a better share of their labor. But, they won't, they are not working there because they are very intelligent. If they were very intelligent, they would be rocket scientists, not cashiers. Do you know that statistically, the higher your i.q., the more you will make? Come on, people, be smart enough to demand more for yourselves. If you don't, no one will. If I agreed to work for seven bucks an hours, seven bucks an hour is what I would make. I am much too intelligent to ever agree to work that cheap. And, I am much too intelligent to ever allow an employer to make so much off of my labor.

If they were very intelligent (like me), they would be rocket scientists, not cashiers. Do you know that statistically, the higher your i.q., the more you will make? Come on, people, be smart enough to demand more for yourselves. If you don't, no one will. If I agreed to work for seven bucks an hours, seven bucks an hour is what I would make. I am much too intelligent to ever agree to work that cheap. And, I am much too intelligent to ever allow an employer to make so much off of my labor.
You may be intelligent but not smart enough to know some people have no choice but to take what they can get.

Wal*Mart is the store from hell. There is no way that small componies can keep up with manufactured shit in the can. But never mind, like the typical American Cares how Wal Mart is so cheap anyway, as long as the merchandise is cheap, they will make money. Damn large corporations.

Joel,
You are the one who is sick and warped, not the writer you make fun of. You morality mongering fanatic fundamentalists are destroying the world. You'd like to see all creation blown up in a blast of apocalyptic thermonuclear Christian glory. You are a freak. I despise fanatics of all stripes, especially creeps like you, simpleminded hypocritical saps, lackeys for the money-grubbing rich moneyed overlords who use you, you credulous jerk, to further their own agenda which is to get richer and destroy the middle class. Walmart is just one good example of how the entire world is being turned into a labor camp ruled by a small rich elite. And stupid jackasses like you are their puppets. And by the way, I love Jesus. But he is sickened by what you Christian fundamentalists are doing in his name. You are vipers.

Joel,
Clarification. The writer Mark Morford is probably a fanatic too, so don't think I'm on his side, either. The problem in this country is too many of you people think everything is black and white. Is there such thing as truth and lies, good and evil? I think so, so we agree there. But I don't think you or your fundamentalist cohorts are qualified to tell the whole world that YOUR version of how things ought to be needs to be everyone's version of how things ought to be. You fundamentalists, in religion and politics, are all the same. You won't be satisfied until everything is your way, and you'll use any means necessary to get your way, and if too many people become fundamentalist like you, the only outcome is war and killing - which you'all think is glorious. It is too bad moderates can't rouse the same passion that fanatics can; maybe they'd be heard. Do you really think it helps America for Walmart to buy cheap manufactured goods overseas, killing American factories, and then hire people for wages that are far below what it takes to make a living, killing American retail jobs? Economically this is not a long-term path that leads to anything but disaster. You should think twice there. I was wrong to imply in my earlier rant that I think Mr. Morford is any better than you. You are both absolutists. It is a pity the extremes have come to dominate the dialogue, everywhere these days.

Larson,

I don't know the person that you describe in your emotional tirade. Your characterization of me in your tidy little box doesn't describe me or my beliefs at all, despite your prejudices and hate. You say you love Jesus? Let's see, what was His second commandment? Ah yes, love your neighbor as yourself. Thanks for sharing the love! :-)

Joel

Joel,

Where is the second commandment here:

"...an obviously confused and spastic liberal..."

"...his confused banter..."

"...That may cut it with the Nambla crowd..."

"...You are a whiny liberal writing for other whiny liberals..."

"...clearly been breathing San Fran air for too long..."

You are right to take me to task for my extreme reaction. I became angry because your rhetoric struck me as coming from just another person who thinks they're patriotic and claims to be Christian, who thinks that Walmart embraces either! And your approach, which relies on ridicule, doesn't help your credibility or do anything to soften the reaction of those who disagree with you.

What do you want to accomplish when you write, Joel; to participate in a search for the truth, or to spew polarizing rhetoric?

Larson

Death to Wally,
According to Joel, the creater of this blog, if you don't like Walmart, you're a homosexual pedophile. Isn't that great? The fundamentalist christian patriots have gotten to the point where they think if you question Walmart, you're a gay child molester. There's nothing wrong with capitalism, if it's regulated by government. But Walmart sources their manufactured goods from pretty much anywhere but the U.S., then hides behind patriotic christian rhetoric to obscure what they are doing, which is destroying the job base of this country. Where's the regulation? Isn't the American government supposed to act in the interests of Americans? How does letting Walmart undermine our economy help Americans? And these "christian patriots" are too stupid to see how they're being used.

AYOBOLA TOPE is no reverend - he is a thief using stolen credit cards. Do not do business with the jerk.

Here's what I think.
Whether or not you’re a Christian, you might agree with some of the guidelines in the Bible. In Matthew 7:8, Jesus says “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you”. If we expect for ourselves safe working conditions, a living wage, a clean environment, and basic necessities, then we should require these same things for the foreign workers who make our goods and provide us with services. We should also expect that the employees are treated how we want to be treated. If you don't like what you see at a company, take you're dollar elsewhere. Companies will get the message that consumers care about their fellow humans, even if it means paying a little extra to ensure fair treatment. Help your local businesses compete with big corporations. Don't go to starbucks, go to the locally owned coffee shop. Before you go to walmart or home depot, go to Long's drugs or Pini Hardware and see if they have what you need. I have found that it is a much more enjoyable experience to shop with the "small guys" then it is to go to the big box companies. Employees smile more, there is soul, and prices are usually more competitive than you'd imagine. If you think you can't afford to pay any more than the very lowest price, how about considering not buying so much. Be knowledgable about where the products you buy come from, and vote with your dollar. And for god's sake, quit bitching at each other. It is deconstructive and will lead nowhere. Have a good day.
"be the change you want to see in the world"
-Gandhi

Wal-Mart is a terrible company. They became big by crushing small businesses in small towns, depriving the residents of other options. Now they are big enough even to severely hurt large competitors in America, such as major supermarket chains. It could eventually become a monopoly in rural areas. It mistreats and underpays employees. It forces its competitors to consider doing the same in order to compete. It also employs illegal immigrants, who it treats even worse. There is also a lot of sexism within the company. The products sold are inferior and many were produced in sweatshops. As for the "Christian values," I think everyone should stop trying to keep kids from finding out sex exists. There is really no point in it. I really don't know what he means by "innocence," but kids are not going to blow up or anything if they know what sex is. They will just go on with their lives, as usual. Most have heard something about it from other kids at school, anyway.

What every American needs to know about Walmart
The Evil That is Walmart

What every American needs to know about Walmart

The owners of one of America's premiere retail corporations is comprised of five of the ten richest people in the world, all from the same family. Their personal wealth eclipses $100 BILLION dollars. Last year the companies CEO was paid a cool $11.5 million, more than the annual salaries of 765 of his employees combined! The company's profits are over $7 BILLION annually. In these difficult economic times how do they do it?

- This company runs ads featuring the United States flag and proclaims "We Buy American". In 2001 they moved their worldwide purchasing headquarters to China and are the largest importer of Chinese goods in the US, purchasing over $10 BILLION of Chinese-made products annually. Products made mostly by women and children working in the labor hell-holes China is famous for.

- Their average employee working in the US makes $15,000 a year, $7.22 per hour!

- These employees gross under $11,000 a year.

- The company brags that 70% of their employees are full time, but fails to disclose that they count anyone working 28 hours a week or more as full time.

- There are no health care benefits unless you have worked for the company for two years.

- With a turnover rate averaging above 50% per year, only 38% of their 1.3 million employees have health care coverage. -In California alone it's estimated that the taxpayers pay over $20 million annually to subsidize health care benefits for these employees who get none from this behemoth corporation.

- According to a report by PBS's "Now" with Bill Moyer, their managers are trained in what government social programs are available for these "employees" to take advantage of so that the company can pass on those costs to you and me. It allows them to not only keep their $7 BILLION in annual profits, but to do so by substituting benefits they refuse to provide with benefits paid for with taxpayer dollars.

- This company holds the record for the most suits filed against it by the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. A lawyer from "Business Week" (not exactly the bastion for supporting Labor) said, "I have never seen this kind of blatant disregard for the law." They had to pay $750,000.00 in Arizona for blatant discrimination against the disabled! The judge was so incensed that he also order them to run commercials admitting their guilt.

- The National Labor Relations Board has issued over 40 formal complaints against the corporation in 25 different states in just the past five years. The NLRB's top lawyer believed that their labor violations, such as illegal spying on employees, fraudulent record keeping, falsifying time cards to avoid paying overtime, threats, illegal firings for union organizing etc., were so widespread that he was looking into filing a very rare national complaint against the company.

- Nearly 1 MILLION women are involved in the largest class-action suit every filed against a corporation. Although women make up over 65% of this corporations work force only 10% of them are managers. The women who have become store managers make $16,400 a year LESS then the men.

- The corporation took out nearly 350,000 life insurance policies on their employees. They did not tell the employees and then named the corporation as the beneficiary. They are now being sued by numerous employees, and although the corporation has stopped this practice of purchasing what is known as "Dead Peasant Policy's", a company spokesperson stated, "The company feels it acted properly and legally in doing this."

- They force employees to work after ordering them to punch out. In Texas alone this practice of "wage theft" is estimated to have cost employees $30 million per year. Wage theft or "off-the-clock" lawsuits are pending in 25 states. In New Mexico they paid $400,000.00 in one suit and in Colorado they had to pay $50 MILLION to settle one class-action case brought against them. In Oregon a jury found them guilty of locking employees in the building and of forcing unpaid overtime.

- With 4,400 stores they practice "predatory pricing." They come into a community and sell their goods at below cost until they drive local businesses under. Once they have captured the market the prices go up.

- Locally owned and operated businesses put virtually all of their money back into the community which helps keep the local economies vibrant. This corporation sucks the money out of the local community, decreases wages and benefits and ships the profits out of state.

- This company doesn't buy locally or bank locally. They replace three decent paying jobs in a community with two poorly paid "part- timers".

- In Kirksville, Missouri when this company came to town, four clothing stores, four grocery stores, a stationary store, a fabric store and a lawn-and-garden store all went under. Eleven businesses are now gone.

(The above information can be found in "Thieves in High Places", James Hightower, The Penguin Group, New York, NY, 2003 p. 166 - 193.)

Now you know how they can claim, "Always low prices." Wal-Mart is the largest corporation in the world, larger than General Motors and Exxon Mobil. Wal-Mart will reap over 250 billion in sales in 2003, which is larger then the entire gross national product of Israel and Ireland combined. It has over 1.3 million employees. It sells more groceries, jewelry, photo processing, dog food, and vitamins than any other chain in the world. Wal-Mart is owned by the Walton family. They will also never see a dime from my wallet again.

Please feel free to circulate this memo to everyone on your email lists. Only we, the citizens of this great country can stop this race to the bottom.

I like what you had to say. It would help if you had something to back up all the statistics but besides that you did an awsome job. Im currently looking for a job, and I may have to resort to a job with Wal-Mart. I have a mental dissability (Manic Depression) its bad, but I am still capable of working (just dont expect me to be that cheery some days) and I was wondering, hey, maybe I could use this "provincial disability status" I have to my advantage when applying for a job with Wal-Mart....All I want is a job, I can make up to 400$ a month on top of my disability payments, and Walmart is probably the only place here in my small town. I dont like them, but I need the money, just for now.

So! Dissabilty, use it as an advantage...you agree with this idea? And anyone wanna help me out by giving me a few pointers?

Thanks,
Steve

As a christian, who believes in reincarnation and
knows who he was in a previous spiritual life, no
one is going anywhere until they're like Jesus
Christ. It's more than just having your fire in-
surance - even the demons believe. Think of it as "groundhog life" not 'day.' We're all going to live for eternity. Heaven is not that easy.
There's a debt to be paid. You're going to have to pay for the way you treat others. Making your-self wealthy at the expense of other people is sin, and you won't be able to buy your way in. Ask yourself if it's something Jesus would do.
Jesus said there was no one greater than John the
Baptist; yet he who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. Eternity is a very long time and God has all the time in the world.
The sooner we start to live like we don't, the
better this place will be. Live a life of obedience - like no one on earth can ever make it up to you. It cost Him everything He had, make
them question whether they're sure they can
afford you or not. Joshua

I will tell a story about how corupt Walmart is. The phamacy is a bunch of jokes working there. I had been put on a medicine that the phamacy manager had to order just for me, first he changed my medication without my doctor's concent. Then told me I was a problem he had to order it just for me why could I not take generic like everyone else. I had pills missing for months and did not change in time. My doctor was hiding something for he did not put this error in my medical records. The next month I told a floor manager about the phamacy closing, as the phamacy manager walked out saw me. The next moring he tampered with my perscription and called my doctor to cut my medication. Right at the Holidays. He got rid of me all right. The corporation does not care. I will have to get a lawyer. The store manager touched me and tried to push me out of the store. The calmer I was the more out of controll he became. I have a Business Degree and know you do not treat people like this. All they say is sorry. Sorry we ruined your life for one of our employee jokes. They refused to pull camera's. Why if they are so inocent? Be wary! Stay where you know people and services in your community! You are only a number at Walmart.

I recently read the following news. Exxon-Mobil record U.S. profits of 35 billion dollars for 2005 while gas prices rose to new heights- Forbes richest Americans list with the Walmart family being 5 of the top 10- Walmart in China- Walmart trying to become your bank center- California's false energy crisis and extortion-the weapons of mass destruction lie- The cost of the war in Iraq payed for by the American taxpayer- The U.S. record deficit-The Washington Abramoff corruption scandal- The adminiistration's illegal wiretapping- Pat Robertson's assassination suggestion- The Fima disgraceful relief disaster- The U.S. open borders and the cost to America in safety and dollars- The emails to this site- etc.etc.etc. I think to myself....What a wonderful world. You're all bananas!